Monday, October 18, 2010

CLOSED. cocovintages Interview and GIVEAWAY!

 This giveaway is now closed.  Stay tuned for the winner later today (Monday) and our next giveaway, starting tomorrow, from a gorgeous Etsy shop with a cool name.


We were thrilled with our first giveaway, and now we're addicting to sharing some of our favorite stuff with all of you! Of course, the fact that we love vintage is something that should be blatantly obvious. And we really love this new vintage Etsy shop, cocovintages.

So let's get to know Kate, the owner and curator.
--What does your life outside of Etsy look like?
When I was little my mom asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up and I said “shashion.” Assuming I
meant fashion I guess I knew from a young age clothing was something special to me, even if at the time the only  “shashion” I knew  was a t-shirt with a picture of a cartoon corn cob that said “corny but cute.” Luckily my taste has changed over the years but has always included combining old and new styles.

I currently live in San Francisco with my three very talented and artistic roommates. Not only have  they been incredibly supportive and encouraging they pretty much let me take over our amazing living room  and turn it into my dream closet/boutique, where I am lucky enough to be spending my days working on projects. I have an amazing family and a boyfriend I am madly in love with - life is good!

--Describe your style in three words.
Simple - 70’s - Summer

--Fall piece you can’t live without?
I’m definitely a summer person but a pair if brown boots and a scarf make me look forward to fall. Those two will always be a necessity but if I have to pick one I would go with the boots!

--Most recent fashion-related purchase?
I recently purchased the fall piece I cannot live without and they are amazing! A pair of Costume National boots in a beautiful chocolaty brown leather.  Something that makes them even more amazing to me is the fact that I found them in a thrift store!

A fashion trend you wish would disappear?
I am so surprised that girls are still wearing Lycra tube top dresses. I see groups of girls traveling in packs all wearing the exact same uniform consisting of a pastel piece of spandex the size of a hand towel and open toe strap-y platforms. (Average temp in San Francisco is in the fifties.... year round.)

--Your go-to outfit?
A great pair of fitted jeans, t-shirt with the neckline cut off so it hangs slightly off the shoulder and always with a necklace my mom made.  For some reason cutting the neckline off the t-shirt and adding a necklace totally disguises that fact that you are only wearing a t-shirt and jeans.  If you’re going out at night just add heals. Easy-Breezy.

--Any pet peeves?
I live with three guys, where do I begin?

--Your most endearing qualities?
Hmmmm, let me go ask one of those three guys. I’m a little scared to get their answer...  
Ok, that wasn’t too bad. When they were finally done making jokes apparently my endearing qualities are cooking and dancing.

--Bad habits?
In regards to clothing I will work on something all day then the next day I think I have a better idea so I start something completely new. The past month has been all about vintage but the other night I pulled out my original stuff and realized I have about 10 things that could be finished within an hour... but then a new idea came to me. Now I have 11.

--Desert-island food?
Ice Cream,  any kind.

--Three bands/singers you can’t get enough of?
I listen to music, podcast, movies, etc... for about 12 hours a day while I’m working on projects and the three I never get sick of are DTek, Passion Pit and De Phazz.

--Another blog you follow regularly (link us!):
 Miskabelle is my first! I created a Twitter account just so I could follow... As soon as I finished setting up cocovintages I was planning on being all about the networking/blogging sights and I’m only now getting started but I am proud to say you're my first!

--What made you decide to start a shop?
The first time I heard about Etsy was when my mom opened her shop. She makes amazing, cool and sometimes vintage inspired jewelry. Two years later, with her encouragement and constant support I wanted to give it a try.
I had been working on my own designs with the intention of opening an Etsy handmade shop. Everything I was making was out of vintage fabric and in the process of hunting for material I had accumulated a lot more then just fabric. So for the past couple months my attention has shifted to vintage and I have put my handmade items on hold. I hope to have an Etsy handmade shop open soon but in the meantime I am going to be adding a new cocovintages shop section and listing a few of my own things.

--Significance of your shop name?
I knew I wanted to have vintages in the name to set it apart from the handmade store I hope open one day. I also wanted to make it personal but not something that wouldn’t make sense. Coco is short for coconut and to me is a cute way to represent the places I’ve been. I grew up on the central coast of California and after high school I moved a lot, including six months in Mexico and two years in Hawaii. There was constant change but the beach, ocean and palm trees were always there. I am extremely happy to have settled in San Francisco - the city by the bay! It doesn’t hurt that Coco Chanel is the epitome  of timeless fashion.

--Favorite item in your shop right now?
If cocovintages had cheerleaders or a mascot, I would make this little number the uniform.


Kate is the coolest chick.   So of course she has a cool shop.  Wouldn't it be awesome to get some of the great vintage from her shop for free?
Well, now you can!  Kate is sharing a $50 gift certificate giveaway with our readers!!!

$50 is a lot of vintage cash.  Here's how you can win:

1.  Become a follower of our blog and let us know in a comment below (if you're already a follower, skip to the next step). 
2.  Visit the cocovintages shop, and link to your favorite item in a comment below. 
For additional entries:
3. Follow us on twitter @miskabelle. (Let us know in the comments.)
4. Retweet this giveawayonce we tweet it.
5. Link this giveaway through your blog or Facebook page (and let us know in the comments too!).
This contest will run until October 25th--one week!  The winner will be chosen through a random number generator.

If I won, here are some things I would get (I am ineligible since I am running the giveaway, but a girl can dream, can't she?):


 

Good luck!



125 comments:

  1. Oh wow how am i to choose! i love the vintage prade shoes(the colour is fantastic for fall...and they are in my size!)
    The henderson umbrella would be perfect for this rain we are having in germany right now!
    The sleeveless blouse with blue stripes is cools as well
    The belt is another favourite!
    wow it would be difficult to choose haha

    oh and i am a follower of your blog :)
    kshuttle@uoguelph.ca

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  2. I've added you guys to my RSS (and of course already follow you on twitter). I have fallen in love with the 1950s Peaches and Cream dress at cocovintages...

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  3. I follow you on Twitter, of course! Don't have a clue how to use an RSS feed, so that's right out. :)

    And, while I'm in love with almost every single piece of outerwear in the store (plus that dress you picked out! So pretty!), I think this coat is my favorite.

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/59256559/1970s-english-countryside-pea-coat-in

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  4. I'm already a follower and I love this:

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/58226782/1960s-cozy-art-deco-sweater-with-large

    mommytrenches at gmail dot com

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  5. I follow on twitter!
    mommytrenches at gmail dot com

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  6. FB Status
    http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=156827667691500&id=100001643303423
    mommytrenches at gmail dot com

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  7. I retweeted!
    mommytrenches at gmail dot com

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  8. I'm following your wonderful blog! And I am In LOVE with this cozy white sweater!

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/59173305/1970s-extra-cozy-over-sized-sweater-by

    Thanks for the awesome giveaway! :)

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  9. I already follow you fab ladies (both blogs actually even though I don't have any babies haha)

    My favorite piece from CocoVintage is this Pea-Coat

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/59256559/1970s-english-countryside-pea-coat-in

    I am OBSESSED! I NEED it. Please random number generator pick number 9.


    I re-tweeted the giveaway and I follow both your blogs.

    Thanks again for another fabulous giveaway! You gals are the best : )

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  10. OH I also wanted to mention how I'm also obsessed with the 70's ruffle wrap dress and the Colin Stuart wedges, but alas, both are not in my size. But I love. LOVE LOVE LOVE.

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  11. First, I'm new follower:)

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  12. Vintage Baby Doll Mini in Black and Red Floral Pattern
    one of my faves! So cool shop:)

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  13. Love love love this: http://www.etsy.com/listing/59244379/1960s-fitted-day-dress-in-nautical-blues

    just became a follower! so glad i stumbled upon this!

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  14. follower of your blog and I love this little number!!! So cute

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/58518285/vintage-baby-doll-mini-in-black-and-red

    Mallory1031 at gmail dot com

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  15. tweeted!!

    http://twitter.com/#!/malloryrobinson/status/27770998971

    Mallory1031 at gmail dot com

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  16. blogged about ya

    http://malloryrich.blogspot.com/2010/10/miskabelle-vintage-giveaway_18.html

    Mallory1031 at gmail dot com

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  17. I am a new follower of your blog via GFC. Love it! Thanks

    xmaswoman at hotmail dot com

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  18. I follow your blog with google friend connect and I love the 1950s Original Aronesti Black Glitter Stilettos
    Thank you for the giveaway :)
    hurdler4eva(at)gmail(dot)com

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  19. I follow @miskabelle on Twitter - I'm @AmberGoo
    Thank you for the giveaway :)
    hurdler4eva(at)gmail(dot)com

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  20. I retweeted the giveaway: http://twitter.com/#!/AmberGoo/status/27773737615
    Thank you for the giveaway :)
    hurdler4eva(at)gmail(dot)com

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  21. I'm a new blog follower :o)
    monkeychild92 at gmail dot com

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  22. twitter follower
    JessicaSage22

    jesage@asu.edu

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  23. I love the watercolor shift dress in the shop. So fun!

    jesage@asu.edu

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  24. I'm a follower and my favorite item is:
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/59256559/1970s-english-countryside-pea-coat-in

    katiecan86@yahoo.com

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  25. I'm a follower!! ~ Cherie
    I like the Vintaqe Cork Wedges!
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/57170246/vintage-cork-wedges-by-colin-stuart-the

    I wish they came in my size!

    oohmybento [at]gmail[dot]com

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  26. I'm a follower!

    kathrynchown at gmail dot com

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  27. I follow on Twitter

    @bunnyhornet

    Thanks!

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  28. I love your Vintage Watercolor Shift Dress - and my size too!

    kathrynchown at gmail dot com

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  29. I follow your blog! :) (LisaBerkery@gmail.com)

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  30. This is definitely my favorite!
    The Black Ruffle Wrap Dress
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/56779013/1970s-black-ruffle-wrap-dress-original

    (LisaBerkery@gmail.com)

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  31. I follow your blog
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/56779013/1970s-black-ruffle-wrap-dress-original
    earthdancedaph@yahoo.com

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  32. I Became a follower of your blog via GFC as "sswpss." My fav item from her shop is the 1960s Diamond Cocktail Dress by Jonathan Logan - http://www.etsy.com/listing/57207387/1960s-diamond-cocktail-dress-by-jonathan

    sswpss at yahoo dot com

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  33. following on gfc as jhb.
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/58518285/vintage-baby-doll-mini-in-black-and-red
    I love this dress.
    jhbalvin at gmail dot com

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  34. Blog follower via GFC as Khrista Porcadilla.
    My favorite item: http://www.etsy.com/listing/58013830/1970s-silky-soft-chiffon-and-lace
    khrisocubillo at yahoo dot com

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  35. Twitter follower as Bellekhris.
    khrisocubillo at yahoo dot com

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  36. http://twitter.com/miskabelle/status/27739780986
    Re-tweeted.
    khrisocubillo at yahoo do com

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  37. follow on gfc and my fav item is the
    1950s Double Breasted Houndstooth Coat an Original Bruce Arnold for Bramson

    erica(dot)terranova(at)gmail(dot)com

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  38. New follower

    I love the 1970s English Countryside Pea-Coat in Pure New Wool by Emily Jane

    abstufftobuy(at)gmail(dot)com

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  39. Follower :)

    elizabethglassturner (at) gmail (dot) com

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  40. I looove that 1970s Subtle Floral Day Dress in Brown Pink and Green! Gorgeoussss

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  41. i'm a follower via google friend connect!

    tea_green24(at)yahoo(dot)com

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  42. like you, this is the dress that caught my eye!
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/56850167/1970s-subtle-floral-day-dress-in-brown

    tea_green24(at)yahoo(dot)com

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  43. This is my favorite!

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/57956416/vintage-purple-leopard-print-button-up

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  44. i'm a twitter follower too! (tea_green24)

    tea_green24(at)yahoo(dot)com

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  45. I'm a twitter follower as @missyfivestones

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  46. retweeted! http://twitter.com/miskabelle/status/27739780986

    tea_green24(at)yahoo(dot)com

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  47. http://www.etsy.com/listing/56850167/1970s-subtle-floral-day-dress-in-brown
    I could see myself wearing this with a little sweater, brown tights, and my favorite brown boots!
    wright.173 at wright.edu

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  48. So many gorgeous things - it's hard to pick just one! But I would totally rock this jacket with jeans and my green converse. http://www.etsy.com/listing/58216616/1970s-designer-ski-bunny-jacket-by-skyr

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  49. i'm a follower (of the blog...maybe in life too...:)

    as a fellow bay area-ite, this jacket would be exactly what i need for fall, winter, spring, and even...*gulp*...sometimes summer: http://www.etsy.com/listing/59256559/1970s-english-countryside-pea-coat-in

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  50. Enter me please! I'm a new follower via GFC.
    My fav item is 1950s Chocolate Leather Ande' Handbag with Dual Opening.


    Ana Belén R.M
    fisiwoman(at)hotmail(dot)com
    Spain

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  51. Post it on my FB wall: http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=166797970012393&id=100000825276857


    Ana Belén R.M
    fisiwoman(at)hotmail(dot)com
    Spain

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  52. Tweeted: http://twitter.com/fisiwoman/status/27867966294




    Ana Belén R.M
    fisiwoman(at)hotmail(dot)com
    Spain

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  53. The watercolor shift dress is what I'm picking, but I like so many things that it's hard to pick just one!!! I'm a fan as well!

    palaciosamantha(at)yahoo(dot)com.

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  54. Hi! I'm a new blog follower (saw a tweet and stopped by)
    kkfoster35 at msn dot com

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  55. I'm a follower on GFC, my favorite item is : 1960s Diamond Cocktail Dress by Jonathan Logan

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  56. Love, love, love this.
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/59173305/1970s-extra-cozy-over-sized-sweater-by

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  57. Tweeted.
    http://twitter.com/katiegeller/status/27894080849

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  58. I'd love to get this Baby Doll Mini Dress, it's just so pretty!

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/58518285/vintage-baby-doll-mini-in-black-and-red

    I follow via gfc, thanks for the lovely giveaway.

    yumihamano@gmail.com

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  59. Followed your blog.:D

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/56850167/1970s-subtle-floral-day-dress-in-brown

    followed u on twiotter @shexiebaby

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  60. I am following your blog on Twitter.

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  61. I love these shoes! http://www.etsy.com/listing/57170246/vintage-cork-wedges-by-colin-stuart-the

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  62. Follow you..
    malmort01 at optonline net

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  63. Love the bag's and the necklace. so cool
    malmort01 at optonline net

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  64. I've become a follower of your blog!
    (:

    www.atrickleofmeaning.blogspot.com

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  65. My favourite item is
    1970s Apple Pie Ruffle Blouse. Its so cute, and vintage, so me.

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/59404724/1970s-apple-pie-ruffle-blouse

    ceeyracatastrophe@hotmail.co.uk

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  66. i follow.
    shenais
    divertida@fastmail.fm

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  67. I retweeted your giveaway (:

    my username is ceeyracatastrop

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  68. i love this coat!
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/57366290/vintage-double-breasted-sweater-coat

    thanks
    shenais
    divertida at fastmail.fm

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  69. i twitter follow @mamipdx
    thanks
    shenais
    divertida at fastmail.fm

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  70. new follower on GFC
    jbdownie5@yahoo.com

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  71. http://www.etsy.com/listing/59404724/1970s-apple-pie-ruffle-blouse
    jbdownie5@yahoo.com

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  72. Daily tweet.
    http://twitter.com/katiegeller/status/27984418598

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  73. I follow and everything is so cute!
    annemolino at hotmaildot com

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  74. but I do like that belt! 1970s Brown Leather Boho Belt with Tooled Flower Pattern

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  75. i'm a new follower of your blog :)


    yuri.kristi at gmail dotcom

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  76. i love the 1970s Black and White Striped Knit Dress (http://www.etsy.com/listing/59526549/1970s-black-and-white-striped-knit-dress)


    yuri.kristi at gmail dotcom

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  77. Everything is so great, it's tough to choose I really love this
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/56852700/1960s-caf-au-lait-belted-sweater-dress
    and this
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/57207387/1960s-diamond-cocktail-dress-by-jonathan

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  78. Hi! I'm a new blog follower!
    kkfoster35 at msn dot com

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  79. I follow this blog
    i love teh diamond 60's dress

    lovelylittledeer at hotmail dot co dot uk

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  80. my fave item http://www.etsy.com/listing/59450553/vintage-hand-knit-sweater-dress-with

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  81. Daily tweet.
    http://twitter.com/katiegeller/status/28361694795

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  82. my favorite is: http://www.etsy.com/listing/57207387/1960s-diamond-cocktail-dress-by-jonathan



    Lnordquist@live.com

    http://crystal-lized.blogspot.com/

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  83. I am now following miskabelle vintage.
    ksj1717@gmail.com
    http://ksj1717.blogspot.com/

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  84. I am now following miskabelle vintage on twitter (as ksj1717).
    ksj1717@gmail.com
    http://ksj1717.blogspot.com/

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  85. I like the 1970s English Countryside Pea-Coat in Pure New Wool by Emily Jane at http://www.etsy.com/listing/59256559/1970s-english-countryside-pea-coat-in
    ksj1717@gmail.com
    http://ksj1717.blogspot.com/

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  86. I am a follower!

    great giveaway

    jjensen3@connect.carleton.ca

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  87. I follow your blog.
    monamhassan[at]gmail[dot]com

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  88. I liked the 1960s Button Up Grid Dress a Nancy Greer Original Medium.
    monamhassan[at]gmail[dot]com

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  89. i follow your blog! and my favorite item is the Vintage Purple Leopard Print Button Up Blouse with Necktie

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/57956416/vintage-purple-leopard-print-button-up

    thompson_tanda@yahoo.com

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  90. So excited with the giveaway. I would like to participate in it.
    Anw i am totally follower through Google Friend Connect name liz.
    My faviest item must be http://www.etsy.com/listing/59404724/1970s-apple-pie-ruffle-blouse. I love ruffle :)

    Contact me dear <3
    liz_crowny(at)yahoo(dot)com
    pintaliztiirene.blogspot.com

    Anw, you can join my first giveaway here

    http://pintaliztiirene.blogspot.com/2010/09/f21-statement-ring-giveaway-

    from-me.html which is F21 peach statement ring at
    my blog. The merrier is more fun :)

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  92. I'm a new google friend follower (Snowflake07).
    I like the 1970s Lace Applique Button Up Blouse with Bell Sleeves.
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/57414983/1970s-lace-applique-button-up-blouse

    hotpepper71 at bell south dot Net

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  93. i am a follower (Egle Mane) via GFC.
    i like 1970s Embroidered Boho Sun Dress.

    egle dot mane at gmail dot com

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  94. Ohhh, I love your picks :)
    I'm a follower and my fave item are these pants: http://www.etsy.com/listing/56860305/1950s-french-riviera-silk-palazo-pants?ref=v1_other_1

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  95. This blouse is lovely --
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/58929411/vintage-kimono-blouse-with-matching-tie

    Thanks!

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  96. i love this organizer :)

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/57055264/1970s-bright-blue-vinyl-organizer

    misscasey(at)woh(dot)rr(dot)com

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  97. im a blog follower :)

    misscasey(at)woh(dot)rr(dot)com

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  98. i tweeted about this :)

    http://twitter.com/MissLeeThatsMe/status/28538811414

    misscasey(at)woh(dot)rr(dot)com

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  99. I follow via GFC, and I love this dress:
    http://www.etsy.com/listing/56779013/1970s-black-ruffle-wrap-dress-original

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  100. I'm your newest follower and I would get these shoes:

    1970s Caramel Leather Boho Slip-On with Graduated Heel

    sarah at yesteachercrafts dot com

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  101. I adore this dress! It's so floaty and sexy- rawr!

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/56850167/1970s-subtle-floral-day-dress-in-brown

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  102. I follow you :)

    I'm in love with the "Black and White Striped Knit Dress" even tho I am afraid it'd be too small for meee ;_;

    sandra underscore smurple atttt hotmail dotttt com

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  103. i LOVE this dress.

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/59526549/1970s-black-and-white-striped-knit-dress

    and obvs i follow this blog. big time.

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  104. following your blog (:

    katmckid at aol dot com

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  105. http://www.etsy.com/listing/58613005/1950s-chocolate-leather-ande-handbag

    my favorite!! so cute!!

    katmckid at aol dot com

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  106. following on twitter as katiebmcp

    katmckid at aol dot com

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  107. retweeted as katiebmcp

    katmckid at aol dot com

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  108. posted on facebook
    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001686674390&v=wall

    katmckid at aol dot com

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  109. Followed your blog :)
    I like 1950s French Riviera Silk Palazo Pants. :DDD Cool color!

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  110. Follower (starinthenitesky)
    Love the ski bunny jacket... just wish it was my size!

    starinthenitesky (at) aol.com

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  111. Follow you on twitter @elphokitty
    starinthenitesky (at) aol.com

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  112. http://twitter.com/#!/elphokitty/status/28602995464 <tweet!
    starinthenitesky (at) aol.com

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  113. Followed and tweeted :P
    http://twitter.com/#!/orangewink/status/28603073689

    Blogged on my sidebar!
    http://iammarei.blogspot.com/

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  114. I love your http://www.etsy.com/listing/57612920/1970s-original-henderson-umbrella-in-a ...heavensent1@yahoo dotcom

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  115. Blog follower...heavensent1@yahoo dotcom

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  116. GFC follower...heavensent1@yahoo dotcom

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  117. Love your Sterling Plated Peace Sign And Tanzanite Swarovski Crystal Necklace...heavensent1@yahoo dotcom

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  118. gfc follower
    theknitwitbyshair@hotmail.com

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